When I sat down with Meta CEO and founder Mark Zuckerberg to talk artificial intelligence, I expected that he would want to discuss the company’s new supercomputer plans and talk about why he’s been working the phones all summer in a red-hot AI recruiting blitz.

We covered all that. But over the course of the interview, I heard something more interesting emerge: two clear new doctrines that are guiding Zuckerberg through this next big and uncertain phase for the tech giant and the industry.

The first is around Meta’s vision of personal super intelligence and what it means for billions of people—a vision starkly different from the rest of the AGI and super intelligence conversations today.

And that second—which I don’t think I have ever heard Zuckerberg discuss in the last 20 years around running Meta—is his vision around how he deploys capital—these days in tens of billions of dollar chunks, it seems.

We also discussed the latest in data center tech (yes, they’re putting servers inside tents), why researchers are really flocking to Meta and what he said to Altman and his other rivals at Sun Valley.

Here’s the transcript. I hope you find it a valuable conversation and continue to check out The Information’s TITV for more conversations like this one.