Good morning. Last night, President Trump sat in the Oval Office with four of our White House reporters and watched a video from Minneapolis on an aide’s laptop. It showed an immigration agent fatally shooting a 37-year-old American citizen, Renee Nicole Good. The journalists were at the White House for an interview with the president — a remarkable, wide-ranging, on-the-record discussion that lasted for nearly two hours. They also sat in on a lengthy call Trump took from Gustavo Petro, the president of Colombia, the contents of which were off the record, and were led on a walk through the residence. Trump was animated and energetic throughout the interview. As the Times reporters — Zolan Kanno-Youngs, Tyler Pager, Katie Rogers and David Sanger — pressed him on a variety of topics, he summoned aides to bring supporting documents, printouts and a scale model of the ballroom he’s building where the East Wing once stood. Vice President JD Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio were in the room for the Petro call. In the coming days, we’ll bring you news from the interview along with analysis of what the president said — and didn’t say — about the affairs of the nation and the world. Beyond the shooting in Minneapolis, Trump spoke extensively about Venezuela, saying the United States would likely be engaged there for years; his need for “ownership” of Greenland; and the future of his immigration crackdown. He also answered questions about the rifts in his coalition regarding antisemitism; presidential power and the judiciary; his own health; whether international law applies to him; and many other topics. The Times will be publishing stories based on the interview, and it will be the subject of Friday’s episode of “The Daily.” We’ll also publish a transcript. But we’ll begin today with Minneapolis.
An Oval Office viewing“I want to see nobody get shot,” Trump said of Good’s confrontation with immigration agents, speaking to our reporters. “I want to see nobody screaming and trying to run over policemen.” He also said she had targeted an immigration agent with her car: “She behaved horribly, and then she ran him over.” A video that captured the incident does not show the agent being run over, the reporters told him. “I’ll play the tape for you right now,” Trump replied. He called for a staff member to bring a laptop and stand behind the Resolute Desk to show the reporters what he said would be evidence of Good’s wrongdoing. The video played in slow motion. It showed agents ordering Good to exit her S.U.V., which partly blocks a street. She backs up, then drives forward and turns. An agent near the headlight fires, and then continues to shoot as her car moves past. After the reporters watched it with the president, one of them said that it did not appear to show the car running over the ICE officer. “It’s a terrible scene,” Trump said when the video ended. “I hate to see it.” Still, he implied that Good had brought it on herself. “I watched the one woman screaming, the one woman in the car before she got shot I heard was unbelievably bad, badly behaved,” he told the reporters. “You’re supposed to listen to law enforcement.” The reporters reminded Trump that ICE had also wrongfully detained American citizens. Was he comfortable with immigration operations if they looked like this? Trump sidestepped the question, instead blaming his predecessor’s immigration policies, Zolan Kanno-Youngs writes. Read his full account of the exchange here. More on Minneapolis
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