Is former Vice President Kamala Harris gearing up to run for president again in 2028?
Let’s put it this way: She’s not into finality. That was how she put it at the Fortune Most Powerful Women Summit, when I asked if stepping in for President Biden with 107 days to go before the election was the ultimate “glass cliff”—the kind of impossible job that women leaders get asked to take on.
“A cliff to me suggests finality,” she replied, “and I’m not into that.” It wasn’t exactly throwing her hat in the ring, but it was the closest to an admission I’ve heard from her so far that she’s not done with politics.
We also spoke about how President Trump nudged the nation to the right in the 2024 election, including in historically deep-blue cities like New York and Los Angeles. We spoke about why capitalists are leaving the Democratic Party, including Elon Musk, and what would need to be done to bring them back. And we discussed the idea that if the American Dream now costs $5 million—as a disturbing recent analysis suggested—solving that for the American people is Job One.
One person who definitely will not be running in 2028? JPMorgan Chase (No. 11) CEO Jamie Dimon, whom I also interviewed at the MPW Summit.
I asked Dimon point-blank if he foresaw running for president in his lifetime. His answer was a firm “no,” putting to rest any speculation that he might someday be interested in that top job.
Dimon and I had a lot of fun on stage together, where we discussed the global economy, longevity in the CEO role, China-U.S. tensions, the AI bubble, and his opinions on everything from tariffs to gold.
Both interviews can be found on my new vodcast, Fortune 500: Titans and Disruptors of Industry, on Apple, Spotify, and YouTube. I hope you enjoy the conversations as much as I did.